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Frequently asked questions for government representativesQ1: How much money is lost to VAT and Carousel fraud? Q2: What makes carousel and VAT fraud possible? Q3: What technologies are available to solve carousel fraud? Q4: What about other forms of VAT fraud? Q5: How could real time VAT payment work? Q6: What are the overall benefits of using this technology for real time VAT payment? Q8: What are the changes necessary to implement this type of solution? Q9: What about intra EU transactions? Q11: Are there privacy/confidentiality issues linked to this technology solution? Q12: What would the bank’s role be? Q13: What would the individual state tax authority’s role be? Q14: Who could supply the technology? Q15: Are there particular legal aspects between countries? Q16: How much will it cost to implement? Q17: How could the solution be financed? Q18: What is going to happen to all the money saved? Q19: Who are RTvat and what could their role be? A1: How much money is lost to VAT and carousel fraud?Although there’s no definitive figure, based on statistics from the UK and Germany it’s generally agreed that the ‘VAT gap’ due to uncollected tax and fraud costs around €120 billion per annum; that’s €325 million per day, €10 million per hour, or €200,000 for each minute that passes without a solution. Carousel fraud is estimated to account for 25% of this. | Top of page | A2: What makes carousel and VAT fraud possible?“Lack of speed makes carousel fraud an issue” There are a number of contributing factors which combine to produce a system where fraud is possible:
| Top of page | A3: What technologies are available to solve carousel fraud?In the modern technology-led financial world, there are well-established technologies available to drastically reduce the opportunity for VAT fraud; indeed these technologies are already widespread in the banking and settlement industries, where they operate at capacities and speeds significantly in excess of what would be required for the RTvat proposal. Real time VAT collection will eliminate carousel fraud completely because the tax is removed automatically at settlement through the seller’s bank account, so the merchant never has access to the VAT component of the sale price. Fraud scoring is now an established feature of the credit card business, with specialist software available to create neural networks to monitor patterns of potentially fraudulent activity. The software automatically tracks whether the business activity is consistent with the VAT collected, merchant’s turnover, usual spending pattern, credits claimed, and whether suppliers are of the kind normally expected for the different types of business. Automatic checking is implemented so that confidentiality is preserved, and all of this data would be solely based on the national server and thus under the control of the domestic tax authority. Tax authorities will be able to make better use of their staff, no longer having to watch for carousel fraud. They will be able to concentrate on the fraud reports produced by the fraud scoring system, which are formed in a listing structure showing most ‘at risk’ first. | Top of page | A4: What about other forms of VAT fraud?The implementation of VAT collection on settlement rather than on invoice will make a major reduction in other areas of VAT fraud and non-collection; these include reduction on losses due to bankruptcy, general non compliance, and general evasion. The simplification of administrative reporting is a benefit to both the merchant and the tax authority. | Top of page | A5: How could real time VAT payment work?
| Top of page | A6: What are the overall benefits of using this technology for real time VAT payment?Tax authorities
Business
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The EU
| Top of page | A7: How would the RTvat system work with splitting out exempt goods, full rates and reduced rate VAT goods?The databases built in conjunction with the new server network are fully capable of identifying any relevant information on a merchant-by-merchant basis, as well as incorporating specific routines and rules reflecting the differing national regulations of each Tax Authority. | Top of page | A8: What are the changes necessary to implement this type of solution?It is widely recognised that changes to the VAT system are inevitable and necessary to stem the enormous losses due to fraud; the opportunity is to ensure that them most effective and appropriate changes are implemented with the least possible disruption to businesses and administration. The changes required for the RTvat solution include:
| Top of page | A9: What about intra EU transactions?Transactions between EU member states are currently regarded as being taxed as ‘zero rated’ at the point of export. This both provides a useful loophole for fraudsters and creates an imbalance in VAT collections between member states. RTvat’s solution would involve:
| Top of page | A10: What about E-commerce?E-commerce transactions fall within the same rules, with the merchant charging any EU entity at the appropriate rate. | Top of page | A11: Are there privacy/confidentiality issues linked to this technology solution?The network of national servers remain completely under the control of the national Tax Authorities and only the necessary transaction information is passed through the central server, identified by the merchant’s unique EU VAT code. The information from the neural network controlling fraud scoring will be available to the national Tax Authorities to follow up according to their own procedures and priorities. Information gained will be relevant to internal fraud as well as cross-border and carousel fraud. | Top of page | A12: What would the bank’s role be?
| Top of page | A13: What would the individual state tax authority’s role be?Each individual tax authority would be required to:
| Top of page | A14: Who could supply the technology?The technology is well established in many areas where real-time financial data is exchanged on a significant scale; particularly the credit card and banking industries. | Top of page | A15: Are there particular legal aspects between countries?EU directives will need to be agreed in order to resolve cross-border issues | Top of page | A16: How much will it cost to implement?Inevitably there will be start-up costs to build the technology infrastructure and to re-position existing administrative infrastructure to handle the new systems. However it is anticipated that the savings to be recouped will rapidly compensate for these initial costs. Implementation costs can be expected in the following areas: Tax authorities: integration with legacy systems and redeployment of staff from administration to fraud protection; information and education of businesses to use the new system. Technology infrastructure:see separate estimates, but the total is anticipated to be at most the equivalent to the amounts lost from ten days of continuing fraud. The plan is to bring in a for-profit group of companies that will build out the whole program and receive a small percentage of what is recovered due to the implementation of the RTvat system. Businesses: there will be some overhead in re-training staff and accountancy costs in switching to the new system, but such costs are inevitable with any envisaged change to the way in which VAT is operated. Using the RTvat system, the reduction in administrative overheads and reporting requirements should more than compensate for short-term losses. Businesses will lose the advantage of the use of collected funds due to the Tax Authority to bolster their cashflow position; however by receiving immediate refunds on reclaimable VAT their cashflow becomes much clearer, reducing the risk of avoidable bankruptcy due to unexpected tax demands. | Top of page | A17: How could the solution be financed?There are a number of possible financial models; the important point is that the entire systems could be financed from recovery of just a few days' losses. | Top of page | A18: What is going to happen to all the money saved?The money is saved by each state’s national tax authorities, and it is up to individual governments to decide how it should be used. | Top of page | A19: Who are RTvat and what could their role be?RTvat was formed by the International E-commerce Association (Intecard); it is now being established as a separate not-for-profit organisation which has the sole intended purpose of bringing about a fast implementation of the RTvat solution. RTvat has considerable experience in transaction processing in partnership with banks, card associations, processors, fraud monitoring systems and insurers. RTvat has no plans to become a for-profit group but does intend to work with stakeholders in government and business. | Top of page | A20: How can I find out more?> Contact us if there area any aspects you would like to discuss. | Top of page | | Top of page |
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